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Old December 24th 07, 08:19 PM posted to alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains
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Default Lidl - Silvercrest CRE-520 MP3/WMA/OGG Car Radio

Just had one of these from Lidl fo 49.99. Liked the wealth of
functions compared to my VW Gamma. However it did not keep its memory
settings. All radio stations set once it was on, were not there after
ignition was switched off. Also tracks being played from usb stick or
sd card were not remembered after ignition was off. Returned for
refund. Only later realised that on VW gamma radio which has same ISO
standard connector, there are pins 4 and 7 that do not match
Silvercrest layout. Yes, they have reversed these two pins that supply
power to car radio.
On VW gamma, pin4 is designated for ignition key control, and pin7 is
battery + . On silvercrest radio they have used pin4 to supply battery
+ power, and pin7 to supply ignition controlled volatege (Acc+).
see:
http://www.mysilvercrest.de/foto/sup..._Manual_EN.pdf

One may be able to easily swap wires connecting to pins 4 & 7 on VW
connector, with a soldering iron and some heatshrink sleeving, but why
not have it right in the first place?
Interesting is this wikipedia page, where they say that "some older"
cars have pins 4 and 7 reversed, but on a VW passat made in 2000, this
layout is then "old"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10487
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Old December 24th 07, 08:33 PM posted to alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains
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Default Lidl - Silvercrest CRE-520 MP3/WMA/OGG Car Radio

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Just had one of these from Lidl fo 49.99. Liked the wealth of
functions compared to my VW Gamma. However it did not keep its memory
settings. All radio stations set once it was on, were not there after
ignition was switched off. Also tracks being played from usb stick or
sd card were not remembered after ignition was off. Returned for
refund. Only later realised that on VW gamma radio which has same ISO
standard connector, there are pins 4 and 7 that do not match
Silvercrest layout. Yes, they have reversed these two pins that supply
power to car radio.
On VW gamma, pin4 is designated for ignition key control, and pin7 is
battery + . On silvercrest radio they have used pin4 to supply battery
+ power, and pin7 to supply ignition controlled volatege (Acc+).
see:
http://www.mysilvercrest.de/foto/sup..._Manual_EN.pdf

One may be able to easily swap wires connecting to pins 4 & 7 on VW
connector, with a soldering iron and some heatshrink sleeving, but why
not have it right in the first place?
Interesting is this wikipedia page, where they say that "some older"
cars have pins 4 and 7 reversed, but on a VW passat made in 2000, this
layout is then "old"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10487


It's not an uncommon swap - most ISO leads have swappable bullet
connectors for this very reason.
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Old December 24th 07, 09:24 PM posted to alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains
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Just had one of these from Lidl fo 49.99. Liked the wealth of
functions compared to my VW Gamma. However it did not keep its memory
settings. All radio stations set once it was on, were not there after
ignition was switched off. Also tracks being played from usb stick or
sd card were not remembered after ignition was off. Returned for
refund. Only later realised that on VW gamma radio which has same ISO
standard connector, there are pins 4 and 7 that do not match
Silvercrest layout. Yes, they have reversed these two pins that supply
power to car radio.
On VW gamma, pin4 is designated for ignition key control, and pin7 is
battery + . On silvercrest radio they have used pin4 to supply battery
+ power, and pin7 to supply ignition controlled volatege (Acc+).
see:
http://www.mysilvercrest.de/foto/sup..._Manual_EN.pdf

One may be able to easily swap wires connecting to pins 4 & 7 on VW
connector, with a soldering iron and some heatshrink sleeving, but why
not have it right in the first place?
Interesting is this wikipedia page, where they say that "some older"
cars have pins 4 and 7 reversed, but on a VW passat made in 2000, this
layout is then "old"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10487

***************

For some strange reason VW and some Fiats don't comply so its a bit harsh to
blame the stereo manufacturer.
I certainly wouldn't have taken it back when a simple terminal block would
have done the trick.

Steven.




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Old December 24th 07, 10:11 PM posted to alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains
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...
Just had one of these from Lidl fo 49.99. Liked the wealth of
functions compared to my VW Gamma. However it did not keep its memory
settings. All radio stations set once it was on, were not there after
ignition was switched off. Also tracks being played from usb stick or
sd card were not remembered after ignition was off. Returned for
refund. Only later realised that on VW gamma radio which has same ISO
standard connector, there are pins 4 and 7 that do not match
Silvercrest layout. Yes, they have reversed these two pins that supply
power to car radio.
On VW gamma, pin4 is designated for ignition key control, and pin7 is
battery + . On silvercrest radio they have used pin4 to supply battery
+ power, and pin7 to supply ignition controlled volatege (Acc+).
see:
http://www.mysilvercrest.de/foto/sup..._Manual_EN.pdf

One may be able to easily swap wires connecting to pins 4 & 7 on VW
connector, with a soldering iron and some heatshrink sleeving, but why
not have it right in the first place?
Interesting is this wikipedia page, where they say that "some older"
cars have pins 4 and 7 reversed, but on a VW passat made in 2000, this
layout is then "old"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10487


Common to most VAG vehicles - VW, Audi, Seat, and Skoda. What is more
some of the pins are missing, specifically the electric aerial output as
VAG cars supply the power to the aerial amp up the co-ax.

You can get a ready-made adapter from Halfords for a tenner or so which
also gives you an independent electric aerial connection (for which you
will need another adapter!)


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Old December 25th 07, 08:04 PM posted to alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains
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Default Lidl - Silvercrest CRE-520 MP3/WMA/OGG Car Radio

On Dec 24, 8:24*pm, "Steven Campbell" wrote:
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...
Just had one of these from Lidl fo 49.99. Liked the wealth of
functions compared to my VW Gamma. However it did not keep its memory
settings. All radio stations set once it was on, were not there after
ignition was switched off. Also tracks being played from usb stick or
sd card were not remembered after ignition was off. Returned for
refund. Only later realised that on VW gamma radio which has same ISO
standard connector, there are pins 4 and 7 that do not match
Silvercrest layout. Yes, they have reversed these two pins that supply
power to car radio.
On VW gamma, pin4 is designated for ignition key control, and pin7 is
battery + . On silvercrest radio they have used pin4 to supply battery
+ power, and pin7 to supply ignition controlled volatege (Acc+).
see:http://www.mysilvercrest.de/foto/sup..._Manual_EN.pdf

One may be able to easily swap wires connecting to pins 4 & 7 on VW
connector, with a soldering iron and some heatshrink sleeving, but why
not have it right in the first place?
Interesting is this wikipedia page, where they say that "some older"
cars have pins 4 and 7 reversed, but on a VW passat made in 2000, this
layout is then "old"...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10487

***************

For some strange reason VW and some Fiats don't comply so its a bit harsh to
blame the stereo manufacturer.
I certainly wouldn't have taken it back when a simple terminal block would
have done the trick.

Steven.


Wiring is not the only reason why it went back....
Installation should be straightforward job, but his one definitely
isn't. Frame/cage goes in nicely, tabs can be bent inwards to retain
it inside dashboard, but the trick is to remove the radio unit once it
has been fitted. Instructions mention attaching the front frame before
fitting. The front frame is secured by 4 screws to the chasis.
However, front frame does not even need to be disassembled from
chasis, before fitting into dashboard/cage. The problem is then, once
the radio goes in, there's no way to remove the front frame to gain
access to removal tool slot. Once installed, it is there for good.
Yes, front frame has to be removed, otherwise you have no slots
available to push removal tool through to release it from cage. In
order to remove front frame you have to undo 4 screws securing the
frame to radio chasis, but you can't because screws are inaccessible
behind the frame inside your car dashboard..... "catch 22 situation"..
Unless you are magician. I only managed to remove the radio together
with cage because cage tabs were not bent sufficiently to retain it
inside dashboard and it came out with firm finger pull. Had the cage
been somehow secured inside dashboard with screws, this would not have
been possible. Instead dashboard would have to come out and with it
much of passat centre console etc.
That's why I prefer original VW gamma, at least if you have the tool
you can remove it. Silvercrest has provided removal tool but you can't
use it !
I wish design techies who made it come out and comment on this one -
maybe there's a workaround to remove the front frame (when installed)
but I could not figure it out. I expect nothing short of youtube video
clip demo.
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Old December 3rd 14, 12:50 PM posted to alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains
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Default Lidl - Silvercrest CRE-520 MP3/WMA/OGG Car Radio

On Tuesday, December 25, 2007 12:19:42 AM UTC+5, wrote:
Just had one of these from Lidl fo 49.99. Liked the wealth of
functions compared to my VW Gamma. However it did not keep its memory
settings. All radio stations set once it was on, were not there after
ignition was switched off. Also tracks being played from usb stick or
sd card were not remembered after ignition was off. Returned for
refund. Only later realised that on VW gamma radio which has same ISO
standard connector, there are pins 4 and 7 that do not match
Silvercrest layout. Yes, they have reversed these two pins that supply
power to car radio.
On VW gamma, pin4 is designated for ignition key control, and pin7 is
battery + . On silvercrest radio they have used pin4 to supply battery
+ power, and pin7 to supply ignition controlled volatege (Acc+).
see:
http://www.mysilvercrest.de/foto/sup..._Manual_EN.pdf

One may be able to easily swap wires connecting to pins 4 & 7 on VW
connector, with a soldering iron and some heatshrink sleeving, but why
not have it right in the first place?
Interesting is this wikipedia page, where they say that "some older"
cars have pins 4 and 7 reversed, but on a VW passat made in 2000, this
layout is then "old"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10487


-( Need SILVERCREST cre-520 user manual. Can anyone help me plzzzzzzz

 




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